thanks, caroline, for putting this together and esp for the instructions about how to post... such a steep learning curve all day today for me!  thanks, too, to joellen and chris for initiating such a thoughtful discussion... joellen raises a good point and question in essentially asking 'whose enlightenment" are we speaking about? and reminding us of montesquieu's influence and the complexities behind what we really mean when we're spk'g about "enlightenment" or "romanticism"... chris, you're absolutely on to something there... 

jean